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The US and RU killing problem has become more of a common occurance than a few isolated cases, me and a PVT had a CPL actively seeking us out and killing us, and he even openly admitted to wanting to kill us on the comms and nothing was done to the CPL, this is unjust, and we are starting to want to work with the taliban, because we know they will treat us much better.

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Did you put in a ticket?

I mean, You guys shouldn't be working with the Taliban at all, its against what you guys were put in for.

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2 hours ago, Canoon said:

Did you put in a ticket?

I mean, You guys shouldn't be working with the Taliban at all, its against what you guys were put in for.

Yes, we always do, but staff will never actually answer the tickets, I had a ticket that was waiting for an hour, and that's the thing, we're being treated so poorly that working with the taliban, is a WAY more preferable alternative by a landslide

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48 minutes ago, RussianBias said:

Yes, we always do, but staff will never actually answer the tickets, I had a ticket that was waiting for an hour,

While its true there can be a delay in answering tickets, when it comes to RDM tickets, they are usually handled when a staff member becomes available. To say we never answer tickets is an over-exaggeration.  There may be a delay, either due to staff doing other situations, or no staff being active at the time, but all tickets are eventually answered. 

 

48 minutes ago, RussianBias said:

that's the thing, we're being treated so poorly that working with the taliban, is a WAY more preferable alternative by a landslide 

Here's the thing yeah, Your making it out that its all US that's done this, and Spetsnaz has done nothing wrong.. As a staff member that usually handles these, I can tell you, with a reasonable degree of certainty, that it is usually a combo of many factors, including wrongdoing by players in Spetsnaz. I'll give a few examples

 

Example #1 -

Two Spetsnaz players (1 officer and 1 operator) entered the US base without PTL. Security Ops Officer orders them to be arrested for trespassing. Officer arrested, Operator sprays down US MP and in turn gets lit up by other US members.

 

Example #2 -

Spetsnaz Operator arrested for trespassing (Found in HC bunks). Another Spetsnaz Operators sneaks in, Kills the MPs guarding the operator, and breaks them out. 

 

Example #3 -

Spetsnaz operator found helping civis wall climb into us base. Kills MP who trys to arrest him. 

 

Example #4 -

Spetsnaz Officer being escorted out of US base after being released from Jail. When he is removed from the base, he Snipers the GOA.

 

At the end of the day, when it comes to US, there is a level of hostility, it even says so in the US-Spetsnaz relations document. A lot of the RDM tickets I've seen in the past 3 weeks have gone from what was originally Spetsnaz trespassing, or helping civillians. I'm not saying RDM is right, but if you open fire on US personal, they are allowed to defend themselves. The only time Spetsnaz are allowed to kill US is when they are trespassing in Spetsnaz Base, or being fired upon outside the US base (as firing upon them inside US base is Solo-Raiding). Now when it comes to the next point, you should NEVER be working with the Taliban. I'm going to quote from the Spetsnaz rules document.  

 

 

The Russians have joined the war to try and defeat the Taliban

The Russians (including Spetsnaz) are at war with the Taliban and both sides will be killing each other on sight

The Russians execute civilians which means Taliban won’t be able to pretend to be a civilian to avoid combat with the Russians

 

I There is no ambiguity when it comes to those rules. There is no "working with Taliban". I understand a lot of Spetsnaz players are ex-Taliban, however, if you want to work with Taliban then you should rejoin the Taliban.

 

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Jesus I actually never knew that spetsnaz did that, I personally do not partake in those activities, this is from personal experience, so I'm only speaking for myself, but I never knew how bad it was on our part, which is an issue that will need to be resolved. Who would be these people?

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In fairness, a lot of the new Spetsnaz Operators, including yourself, have unfortunately been on the receiving end of the shitstick simply for being spetsnaz by US because of events like the ones I've mentioned above, even though you weren't in spetsnaz at the time. I will give credit to the Current Commander, Rhys, that the number of reports I've been getting have decreased significantly since he took over, but unfortunately, things take time for issues to heal. 

My understanding is that soon Spets HC and US HC will be sitting down to resolve issues. Lets how they resolve this problem.

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2 minutes ago, Canoon said:

In fairness, a lot of the new Spetsnaz Operators, including yourself, have unfortunately been on the receiving end of the shitstick simply for being spetsnaz by US because of events like the ones I've mentioned above, even though you weren't in spetsnaz at the time. I will give credit to the Current Commander, Rhys, that the number of reports I've been getting have decreased significantly since he took over, but unfortunately, things take time for issues to heal. 

My understanding is that soon Spets HC and US HC will be sitting down to resolve issues. Lets how they resolve this problem.

Yeah, I had to say something in the Spetsnaz chat, because it's just not on, we need to pull our heads in. I'm sorry for past behaviour.

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I can say that since I have been in charge there seems to be less incidents between Spetsnaz and US

In example #1 The officer in that situation was jake and I believe the operator is Lach (he killed lots of MPs) Both of these people are no longer in the regiment

In example #2 I honestly do not know since it was probably when I wasnt on. This is unacceptable behaviour and I will try and find out who did it. 

In example #3 I believe this example was also of Lach but I am not 100% sure, I will try and find out.

Example #4 is jake, again, he is no longer in the regiment.

 

Most of these things have happened while jake was in charge, now that I am in charge I believe I have cracked down on the people who are behaving like this in the regiment. The thing I find most irritating about this is that all the new players who have done nothing wrong get shit on by the us for it and it gives spetsnaz a bad reputation of a mingey regiment because of peoples actions in the past. I would be completely open to a meeting with U.S. HC to try and resolve some of the issues brought about by people who are no longer in the regiment. 

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To be honest I had a great idea but I don't know how it will be taken and what it was would be a building in checkpoint where I would sit in and handle the PTL's requested by the spetz?

But I must say something Rhy can you talk to Pubble he is ignoring how things work and entering the US base solely on the basis that his PTE did not get a response. 

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@Brad Pubble left so now it’s just me running the regi / faction. I am doing a mango later today where a I will tell them to stop killing US.

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2 hours ago, eleventeen said:

If you join the taliban faction, you will won’t face this problem.

Coming from the guy that hasn’t even been on the server to play against the Spets :gaylove:

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This has mostly been resolved. Specific incidents should be reported to staff.

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